The Future of Sales Is No Quota with Jacco @ WinningByDesign.com – Escape Velocity Show #36
Is B2B salesmanship polluted by outdated and toxic ideas? In this episode, I sit down with Jacco van der Kooij @ Winning by Design to hear his energizing new take on SaaS sales techniques.
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Take everything you think you know about sales teams…
And get ready to throw it out the window.
I mean it.
Sales, as a concept, is still dragging a lot of dead weight from old-school sales gurus chanting “ABC – Always Be Closing!”
The SaaS business model is being polluted by these old ideas that just don’t work.
For decades, we’ve needed a fresh new take on sales training strategies…
And I finally found that in Jacco van der Kooij.
Jacco is the founder and co-CEO of Winning By Design, who provide forward-thinking sales training for tech businesses.
I’ve read his books on SaaS sales strategies and loved them so much… I bought extra copies so I could give them to some of my clients to read.
Yeah, I’m an evangelist.
So when I had the chance to interview him for the Escape Velocity Show, I knew I was in for a hell of a ride.
Jacco, loaded up on Red Bull, drops bombshells of epic sales knowledge like effortless poetry.
He blew my mind multiple times in this episode which is why I’m telling you… you’ve got to check out this interview!
This is more than just two SaaS-obsessed guys chatting about business: It’s packed with sales lessons. Tune into this episode and you’ll learn
– How anyone can use good sales techniques
– Rational impact vs emotional impact
– The secret to selling B2B: help them pitch their boss
– Arming your internal buyer
– Why B.A.N.T. is outdated and killing SaaS sales
– How to change a customer’s priority with IMPACT
– Don’t compete for commissions – Collaborate!
– How SaaS sales success is measured in backend revenue
– Why “the horse” doesn’t have the problem
Jacco can drink 14 cans of Red Bull in 4 hours (I’m not even kidding).
…But that’s not why I’m impressed.
I’m impressed because here is a guy that truly GETS what great salesmanship for a B2B SaaS looks like, has distilled it into digestible strategies, and is just ridiculously generous with all his priceless knowledge.
Get your headphones and notepad ready because this is the kind of interview you’ll be thinking about for weeks.
Ready? Kick it off here.
Dan “sales evangelist” Martell
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ABOUT DAN MARTELL
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“You can only keep what you give away.” That’s the mantra that’s shaped Dan Martell from a struggling 20-something business owner in the Canadian Maritimes (which is waaay out east) to a successful startup founder who’s raised more than $3 million in venture funding and exited not one… not two… but three tech businesses: Clarity.fm, Spheric and Flowtown.
You can only keep what you give away. That philosophy has led Dan to invest in 33+ early stage startups such as Udemy, Intercom, Unbounce and Foodspotting. It’s also helped him shape the future of Hootsuite as an advisor to the social media tour de force.
An activator, a tech geek, an adrenaline junkie and, yes, a romantic (ask his wife Renee), Dan has recently turned his attention to teaching startups a fundamental, little-discussed lesson that directly impacts their growth: how to scale. You’ll find not only incredible insights in every moment of every talk Dan gives – but also highly actionable takeaways that will propel your business forward. Because Dan gives freely of all that he knows. After all, you can only keep what you give away.
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Jacco is one of those guys that you have no choice but to want to be around him – his energy, positivity and passion. It's so obvious in every word he speaks! Really love watching him
So much wise advice. My former employer T-Mobile used about 40% of these techniques in sales training, including asking for permission to take notes. Thank you for your hard work Dan. I follow you on TikTik as well!
Love the thoughts and ideas in this video. Normally don't comment, but I'm curious if anyone (Jacco / Dan / anyone else) has any thoughts around the 'river of money' problem: One of the reasons why I think Sales are paid so well is because it's very easy to calculate monetary impact (Person closes a $X deal, pay them $X/10 commission). Of course, Jacco is right that it's not just sales that contributes to closing deals and maintaining accounts anymore (customer success is super important, etc, etc), but one problem is that I think it's much harder to calculate the exact monetary impact of those roles. What do you think? Do you have a way to calculate that impact to provide the right bonuses to the right people?
Baller episode!
Jacco is my dude! This is going to be great.
Great conversation!
Great!
Woow woow 😍💋 💝💖❤️
B2B salesmanship is polluted by outdated and toxic ideas. So I chatted with Jacco van der Kooij to hear his energizing new take on SaaS sales techniques.